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Jeruvy
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Joined: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 165
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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MSconfig isn't a permanent solution either, so I agree this is a great little utility.
J.
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iguagaby
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 Joined: Jan 24, 2004 Posts: 426 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi BillC,
Thank you for the link to the new startup list program. It's great!
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AUSSIE
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 Joined: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi ok i dont know what it is but when ever i get it to remove (after unchecking it) then press refresh its all still there oopps and yes i did push apply but nothin happened no flickin of srceen or new window just same so it isnt working for me and yes i did do that thing with the net
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AUSSIE
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 Joined: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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never mind i whent with a different program thankz anyway _________________ Anthon AMD 2.66 Processor
512 Ram DDR
120 GiG HD
Asus A9600XT GC
Asus A7n8x Deluxe MB
Liteon CD-R 52-32-52
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Jeruvy
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject: Review of tool |
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Well I decided to take a serious look and evaluate this tool. We've now checked it with two different versions (at least we think we did).
Jeruvy's Review of Windows Startup Inspector 2.05 & 2.06
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Pro's:
This tool quickly allows you to look at all area's of your system for files that startup. Was able to determine what most applications are (though as I understand this isn't any credit to WSI's author rather another author is responsible for this). Gives you a clean listing and descriptions
Couple quirks:
1. The windows do not update properly (Refresh on resize doesn't occur)
2. It says it's 2.06b by name of archive, but the tool claims it's 2.05
I've downloaded the 2.06b tool to test but it looks the same.
3. It lacks a proper interface (like a file menu for instance)
Overall usage:
Tool is unresponsive at times without a clear understanding why.
Suggestions:
Should be rewritten in a better language like C or assembly since it is VERY OBVIOUS it is scripted and running very slow (since two proxies are scanning all scripts prior to execution, plus net lookups..)
It should be stated that this is a script driven tool, and may not be very performing as other compiled tools such as those that come free with windows support kits.
I then click on refresh, and it tells me I've changed some applications startup settings when nothing was changed. Very confusing.
I felt uncomfortable changing anything with this tool. Instead I went back to regedit, and my text editor to make changes since this doesn't seem to be very clear about what it's doing or what I'm doing with it, and I don't want any indecent surprises.
Evaluation:
1: Ease of availability: 6/10 - Versions do not seem to be clear or checked adequately by RCS. May be other code issues if multiple developers working on project.
2: Ease of Installation: 8/10 - Slow for what little there is, and doesn't enhance performance in any way. Installs flawlessly.
3: Ease of learning : 3/10 - Documentation lacks clarity, and the interface doesn't behave like a windows application confusing users and allowing them to get lost and forget what they were doing. Lack of decent lookup for unknown applications. Could not test on hijacked system (go figure) to see if it noticed evil software.
4: Ease of use : 5/10 - Neutral since some functions are not clear, nor does it offer a consistant windows interface everyone understands, but it doesn't over clutter, and presents a clear clean window for quickly grasping what you are seeing.
5: Does as directed : 8/10 - It detected all our tools, but wasn't aware of tools 8 years old. Required we fiddle with the windows to be able to see everything effectively.
Total score 30/50
Ranking:
This gives us a overall score of 6 out of 10.
My ranking of 6 means this:
6: Needs work or improvment. Software has potential but is currently only worth of beta status and should not be used in production or serious environment.
Afterword:
Given the tools ability, this won't be missed by any serious troubleshooter, as they are going to be comfortable using regedit and other tools to accomplish the same thing. Advanced users are going to know what the executables are in their startup and quickly be able to look up the few that may require more info.
If the performance and GUI get fixed, then this could be a time saver, but for now I think any serious troubleshooter will look for more responsive tools.
J.
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mrmajere
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: cool program |
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hey there...just wanted to thank everyone who contributes to this site --- and the above mentioned program is pretty cool to use... 
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MAL1
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 Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 12 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Should make it into a standalone... theres enough stuff installed on my comp as it is... btw this program doesnt do anything that msconfig cant do so... why even bother... you just end up having 2 tools doing the same exact thing...oooo pretty colors... who cares :O
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parputt
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MAL1 wrote: | | Should make it into a standalone... theres enough stuff installed on my comp as it is... btw this program doesnt do anything that msconfig cant do so... why even bother... you just end up having 2 tools doing the same exact thing...oooo pretty colors... who cares :O |
Not true at all. If you took the time to look at the program you would see that it also gives you the ability to remove dead run processes from the reg without actually having to go into the reg. So, you can kill the process and remove it from the reg with one app. Yes it does the same thing as msconfig, but more.
Not for everyone, but it is a nifty little program for those of us that are constantly installing and uninstalling software. Guess you don't do much of that. _________________ "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".
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MAL1
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parputt
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, did you develop this tool? _________________ "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".
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ForCodeRed
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 Joined: May 15, 2004 Posts: 3 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:51 am Post subject: |
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I am not quite sury why, but this program hangs each time I execute it. I have to end the process manually. Has anybody else had this problem?
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SheepExplode
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 Joined: Jun 02, 2004 Posts: 4 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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MAL1 does your tool include all these keys?
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
Regards.
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nfntjy
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 Joined: Feb 10, 2004 Posts: 2465 Location: Memphis, TN
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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i wish hijackthis was more like this......
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D_may
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 Joined: Jun 22, 2004 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:13 am Post subject: thanks for the great program to help with start-up |
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Thanks for the little program
d_may
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satyr
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Well, it is not "nice" to mention other programs in topic "dedicated" to one program in particular, but since someone also mention Merijin's software ...
Does anyone know great and compact 40 KB application called simply Autoruns from Mark Russinovich's Sysinternals home page ??
Yeah, beside all other FREEWARE utilities, all "non-setups" (single .exe, no installation required, etc.), and most of them between 20-100 KB, without which I can't imagine browing web nor troubleshooting my computer.
Like TCPview, Regmon, Filemon, Portmon, Tokenmon, TDImon, ProcessExplorer as far as GUI-monitoring apps, then Pagedfrg (defrags pagefile, registry hives, .log files, used by NT System process and other files with so-called "exclusive access"), Cacheset (sets max & min working set for current session or clears it), and list just goes on-and-on.
Not to mention Mark's commandline utilites, only to mention few of my favorites, like Contig (defrag single file, or directory, resursive of course), Sync, (also flushes cache as Cacheset, but in different manner, similar to Unix ...), etc., etc.
Sysinternals Main Page:
http://www.sysinternals.com
Autoruns in particular:
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml
Please, take a look. It is a site I labeled it as "must-view" !! _________________ If you want to, please check out my computing-related website titled Tadej's computing homepage, and enjoy reading my various strictly computing-related discoveries, hints, principles, and rules...
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